Talk:Violette Szabo

Violette Szabo

Is there a picture of her? Or the last picture taken? I searched her on Google and there were so many. Also, can we add that Violette replied to German soldiers(they were asking her for help) with hand signals and nods due to her English accent and is often questioned for her reason to be in that town? - Rockmandrum (talk) 02:23, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Recruits were assessed for language skils before selection - as French born with a French mother, I would doubt she would have had much of a English accent detectable to non-native French speakers . If the handicap was as great as claimed she would not have been selected — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.98.22.12 (talk) 22:42, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Actually, Szabo was supposed to have had a very strong Cockney accent. Even though she was born in Paris, she was brought up in London. Part of the tarining for SOE agents was to learn dialect and nuance of the region of the Country they were to operate in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.203.71.134 (talk) 01:00, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Murder or execution?

Searching for execution on Wikipedia brings up Capital punishment which start with:

"Capital punishment, the death penalty, or execution is the infliction of death upon a person by judicial process as a punishment for an offence."

But Szabo was not tried before a court, she was killed in a concentration camp, and I believe murder would be a better word to use. I have changed the similar article on Norwegian Bokmål/Riksmål to "myrdet" (murder) from "henrettelse" (execution) and I believe the same should be done here. Ulflarsen (talk) 13:19, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

It's a good point but I prefer the phrase execution (executed) as she was of a military background & this is the normal phaselogy even without a trail. Consensus rules I guess though Steve Bowen (talk) 15:57, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

A military execution usually follows some sort of judicial proceedings like a court martial or at least a tribunal. There was no such trial or hearing in Violette's case. Just the order that she and the other agents be killed -- SteveCrook (talk) 19:42, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Violette Szabo was executed as a spy, an action that all the major combatant nations were entitled to perform during the war. So, the term is entirely correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.203.71.134 (talk) 00:55, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Philippe Liewer, Salesman

Hello to those working on this article. I just discovered it and made a little edit to the section on Violette's training and first mission. According to the fr wp articles on her and Philippe Liewer, he was the SOE colleague with whom she parachuted into Normandy. As there is yet no en article on Liewer, I linked his name to the section covering their network (Salesman) in the SOE_F_Section_networks article. If anyone wants any info translated from the French articles, just let me know. Eric ^talk 20:52, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

CE

Made a start on tidying the citations etc but it's taking longer than I thought; will return later.Keith-264 (talk) 18:59, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Capture or Movie?

The officer congratulated her and placed a cigarette in her mouth, but she spat out the cigarette and spat in his face. She was then taken away, demanding that her arms be freed and that she be allowed one of her own cigarettes.

Really? isn't this just the scene from Carve Her Name with Pride? Most historians, including the ones cited on this page, agree this whole event including the gunfight, is a fabrication. Suggest remove...

• Agreed. Will delete. Smallchief (talk)

Torture of women prisoners

Re: "possibly brutally assaulted" You have to assume that one prime way men tortured women was to rape them. The women trained with SOE were made aware of this eventuality. It is a distasteful topic routinely swept under the rug. Given the climate today towards a more robust examination of these crimes, perhaps we will be able to do without the euphemisms and the understatements. Elisabeth Aglothia (talk) 18:59, 11 November 2024 (UTC)